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Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

Last post 12-04-2012, 4:15 PM by SIMAV. 9 replies.
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  •  02-03-2012, 11:21 PM 4148

    Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    I try to make trends or handlers that can be used by multiple scenarios, for example, "epinephrine response."

    Then I get some feedback from faculty,  and maybe I decide the heart rate needs to peak just a little bit higher in that trend.... so I edit the trend, and save it.

    Then when I run the scenario, I get a file replace message telling me to replace the newer trend with the older one!  Or else the trend won't edit correctly any more or something. Then it takes the new trend I just tweaked, and renames it 'epinephrine response.OLD"  At least, that it what it is telling me that it is doing.

     Can someone explain this process to me? It seems backwards. Or is it just a typo?

     

    What I want to do is: slightly tweak a trend, and have the revised trend appear in all the scenarios that use it. 

     

    Thanks,

     

    Eric Griswold
    Simulation Engineer
    Medical College of Wisconsin

  •  02-07-2012, 11:03 PM 4202 in reply to 4148

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    It is a little backwards. If your scenario had a previous version of your trend, it wants to know if you want the old version or the new. You have to actually read carefully to be sure that you tell it to run the new one. In 3g, it will tell you which one is newer, so that is a help. It's just double checking to make sure that you don't over write something that you need.
    Barbara K. Ratliff RN, BSN, MBA, CHSE
    Baptist Health Montgomery, AL
    Institute for Patient Safety
    and Medical Simulation
    Simulation Specialist
  •  04-09-2012, 12:53 PM 4343 in reply to 4202

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    so if I do not allow it to overwrite, which handler / trend version will it use, the new or the old one.

     

    Regards

     

    Stephen 

  •  04-12-2012, 6:58 PM 4357 in reply to 4343

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    Unfortunately the answer is it dedends. Sometimes the message asks if you want to replace the new with the old, and sometimes do you want to replace the old with the new, depending on whether you made the change in that scenario or in a different one. That means you have to think about it every time. I'm attaching  how I handle it with screen prints, hopefully that will help.

     


    Barbara K. Ratliff RN, BSN, MBA, CHSE
    Baptist Health Montgomery, AL
    Institute for Patient Safety
    and Medical Simulation
    Simulation Specialist
  •  04-12-2012, 7:36 PM 4358 in reply to 4357

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    Having difficulty with the File attachment. I will try again.
    Barbara K. Ratliff RN, BSN, MBA, CHSE
    Baptist Health Montgomery, AL
    Institute for Patient Safety
    and Medical Simulation
    Simulation Specialist
  •  04-24-2012, 10:06 PM 4379 in reply to 4148

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    Hi Eric,

    I have seen this so many times when writing/modifying scenarios that I have made it a norm to write all trends and handlers for a specific scenario.  If it's a trend that is very generic i will describe what the trend does in the filename (Sp02_up_5pts_in_one_minute.tnd) which helps me to remember what I originally programmed.  If I need to make a change to that trend then I will reflect that change in the filename (Sp02_up_6pts_in_one_minute.tnd).  The method does create a lot of files but the process is beneficial to my sanity.

     

    Lonnie Rosier

    Simulation Technologist
    Univ. of South Carolina
    College of Nursing

  •  06-25-2012, 10:13 AM 4453 in reply to 4379

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    I am still at a loss...

     

    so if it asks

     

    would you like to backup and replace the existing file

    XXXX

    with this one?

     

    YYYY

     

    Which one will be replaced, the one stored in the scenario, or the separate handler?

     

    I have tired updating all the scenarios using a zip manager. After all, the sce files are in zip format. Unfortunately, these become unreadable in the scenario editor, bu still work with the application .

     

    thanks 

  •  07-05-2012, 8:23 PM 4487 in reply to 4453

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    YYYY will replace XXXX and XXXX will be renamed XXXX_OLD, so that you don't actually lose it- it is backed up. Not sure what you mean about using a zip manager- sorry- can't help you there!
    Barbara K. Ratliff RN, BSN, MBA, CHSE
    Baptist Health Montgomery, AL
    Institute for Patient Safety
    and Medical Simulation
    Simulation Specialist
  •  08-27-2012, 12:12 PM 4610 in reply to 4487

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    Fine, I realised that. But what I mean is, which one is used in the scenario? I am thinking it is the new oone - but will the new changes be reflected in the other scenarios.

     

    I am under the impression that the changes are not reflected. I do realise that this is good to have a standalone file for the scenarios, but updating 50+ scenarios each time I change a handler is a pain.

     

    Regarding zip file, the sce are stored as zip files renamed to sce. You can open them with WinZip, and change them. They can be then used for the scenarios - but the scenario editor wilkl not be able to open them any more.

     

  •  12-04-2012, 4:15 PM 4740 in reply to 4610

    Re: Why does it want to overwrite my new file with an old file?

    For me, really is problem,  generally I store my trends in folders like drugs, ventilation,... When I get a problem with the replacement of a trend, my solution is create a folder with the name of scenario and store specifically there the new trend
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