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3G portable SpO2 probe and capnometer

Last post 04-21-2014, 10:28 PM by Bryan Cotton. 3 replies.
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  •  07-07-2013, 10:40 AM 5010

    3G portable SpO2 probe and capnometer

    Hi,

    with our increasing number of courses for in-hospital emergencies, we're struggling with the  simulation in a 'non-monitored' environment.

    The Medical Emergency Team (MET) would come with their own monitor/defib and hook it up to SimMan. Obviously, this monitor can't be fed into the videostream (ie the observers in the debriefing room can't see the cardiac rhythm). Inversely, the MET team can't get an automated BP or SpO2 without hooking SimMan up to his own monitor (which would cause duplication of monitors)

    Furthermore, when intubating SimMan, they would use a portable capnometer which won't work on simMan and the simulated CO2 trace would require a second monitor. 

    Have you come across similar issues and have you got a solution? 

    Regards, Christian 


    Dr. Christian Karcher MD FCICM
    Intensive Care Specialist
    The Royal Melbourne Hospital
    Clinical Sub-Dean Simulation
    The University of Melbourne
    Australia
  •  07-08-2013, 5:18 PM 5017 in reply to 5010

    Re: 3G portable SpO2 probe and capnometer

    Christian,

     

    For our portable setup we use a small USB 2nd monitor setup (this does require a wire for the wireless system) and secure the monitor next to the Monitor/defibrillator (usually with some velcro).  The USB Monitors are about 5-7 inches so they are quite small.  We then open up the software to run the simulation, and the monitor software on the same laptop and drag it to the usb monitor so that those in the simulation can view it.  As for those watching the simulation I do not know of a way to remotely allow them to view the rhythm and VS other than CCTV system that is pan tilt zoom (because you can not tell where they will be putting the monitor)  The SPO2 issue can be resolved by saying you want check boxes for the VS under view (top of the software bar).  Then you can turn on/off the spo2 without it having to "sense" it.  So when you see them put on the spo2... click on.

     

    -Dave 


    David Cherolis EMT-P EMS-I
    Simulation Tech Wright State University
    937-395-8839
    david.cherolis@wright.edu
  •  07-13-2013, 2:00 PM 5025 in reply to 5017

    Re: 3G portable SpO2 probe and capnometer

    Thanks Dave,

    we have played with the PZT cameras but every time the team moves the defib the camera has to be re-adjusted. Not ideal.

    We have (in theory) come up with a solution though which may work. 

    For our ALS training, we're using an iPad based system called iALS  http://www.isimulatetechnologies.com/

     http://www.isimulatetechnologies.com/images/bag.png

    We may be able to mirror the iPad monitor screen onto an Apple TV which feeds into our video-pocessor. Again, in theory it should wrk, Ill try it out next week.

     Any ideas as how to create a portable capnometer?

    Regards, Christian 


    Dr. Christian Karcher MD FCICM
    Intensive Care Specialist
    The Royal Melbourne Hospital
    Clinical Sub-Dean Simulation
    The University of Melbourne
    Australia
  •  04-21-2014, 10:28 PM 5426 in reply to 5010

    Re: 3G portable SpO2 probe and capnometer

    Christian

     

    I have attached a document describing the Vitals Bridge made for use with Sim Man 3G. It is used by the US military and not yet commercially available. Maybe you have connections? 

     

    Here is another possible solution to at least the SPO2 issue:  http://www.pronktech.com/home/

     

     



    Bryan E. Cotton, NREMT-P
    Simulation Specialist
    Medical Simulation Training Center
    Fort Worth Emergency Services Collaborative/ THFW
    817-250-4411 office
    817-250-4418 fax
    http://youtu.be/jlaNlMA_00Y
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